I am not posting this to step on any toes but
nothing is more shameful then when people lie to your face or humor you. I
removed your service provider out of respect. We started off with having about 18-20 people commit to this trip. By the
time the expedition was over with only 5 of the 18-20 helped me on it. In
simple terms about 13 people lied either I did not get the money for the
trip, or they wrote me last minute with doubts, or most of them just went
Awol. I lost over 20 members because of this trip I mean come on
people we have spent years being honest and helping you!!
Its sad that people these days lack honor some
of these people could not even show for a simple dinner group dinner.
These are not all the people and there are other emails but alot of false
hope went into this but you get the idea how discouraging this is. Strange
how most of these members can write me asking me to analyse their photos,
answer their questions etc then turn around lie to me after I been honest
with them about attending this trip.
Due to the lack of involvement this trip
almost did not take place we all 3 excursions at the catacombs terribly
shorthanded. We had no drivers and really lacked support I am amazed we
pulled it off but we did!! One of these people is here is writing a book
and guess what its about? Its about places we already visited so just
another person stealing from the group shame on you! True friends do
not give others false hope if you say your on board keep your word if I
wrong you then bitch and moan but its quite apparent that this trip was
real and all of you missed a good one! I kept my end of the bargain I didn't
just take peoples donations and not fly out to WNY I flew there did what I
promised sounds to me like its the people who are being dishonest
with me.
I am not angry or anything it just at the
time was disappointing cause I felt like I gave so much and asked for so
little in return but some honesty. I mean then your in some dangerous
cavern and your thinking why have my friends turned their backs on me do
they not care are they even caring that I am in here without them. So of
course it has an effect on the trip less help means no place to bunk up,
no rides to these places, less aid, less photographers and witnesses to
paranormal events. One less donation for me may have meant one less piece
of equipment that we could use in this place I am sure this makes sense.
These are my public responses.
Despite my struggles such as walking in deep
cold water, falling off a rock hurting my knee, being homeless for a
night, staying downtown Buffalo at a bands house, lack of investigators,
the weather delays, hate mails, liars etc we still pulled out some amazing
adventure something I would do over and over!!
False
Hopes & More Disappointment
(People
that straight up were dishonest did not show to the investigation or lied
about donating keep on humoring everybody guys)
Subject:
Re: (no subject)
Date: 8/18/2006 10:20:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From:Wwstvlly
To:AngelOfThyNight
Hey there!
I am glad to hear you are coming to Buffalo. I am
not sure however what catacombs you are referring to.... but I am willing
to donate.... I would love to hear any info you have ...or
where it is you intend on visiting. There are so many places here in
western New York that holds alot of "activity". I would be
very interested in any of the places and the history if you visit. I am a
chef at a restaurant about 40 min outside of Buffalo...so if you are in
the area, Keep in touch....or if you just need some info on what to do or
where to go type of thing. Keep me informed when this adventure is to take
place...and if there is a way to join up. I am extremely interested. This
is something...well... thats kind of "up my alley". Look
forward to hearing from you. Careful in your journeys ~ GINA
My
Response
Your
interested but you want free handouts I kept you informed I got ignored
why pretend to be my friend or interested? Shame on you another big let
down. I do not like people who have trouble keeping their word its just as
bad as being a thief or anything else. You want info that is all you want
but in this group we help one another not just take take take.
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Subject:
Re: (no subject)
Date: 8/14/2006
From: jdean14219
To: AngelOfThyNight@aol.com
I have no problem dontating $20. Let me know how and
the dates and I'll let you know if I can make it. I'd
prefer the weekends as I work VERY EARLY during the
week.
Idm
My
Response
You
never let me know anything period you bsed me a few times then I never
heard from you. It gets me that people like you come to me for help
wanting haunted places, stories about them etc then when I ask you to be
in the spotlight you lay low. I never got a donation or anything that to
me is not as important as being a man and keeping your word.
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In
a message dated 8/17/2006 4:58:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
StarvedBelgion writes:
sounds
cool! i should ask jim if he'd like to go on such a trek!
but may i ask why those who want to go along on this trek have to send
ya $ for your plane fare up here? don't ya have the cash to buy
yer own airfare up this way if ya want to explore this area? ghost-walks
are going for only $10 these days...that's what that mason winfield guy
charges. we never went on his walks cuz to pay to walk on public
sidewalks is a scam to get rich quick! i dont know what ya think
of him, sorry, but i think the guy is an ass^%$! >= P
i hope this trek would be on a weekend cuz being
a temp agency worker, we dont have alot of benefits like time-off, etc.
i usually work 1st shift, 7am-330pm @ continental in elma (formerly,
motorola..). jim and i work there together, same shift.
well, let me know.
diana
Email
2:
Written just hours before my flight...
hello,
just a note: cannot make it on the ghost thingy. lost my job
after this friday. moneys tight now. temp service has no
other work right now, I'm screwed. jim still has work, i don't, it
sucks. he don't know when he'll get laid off either. temp
service companies suck. we want a secure job, not some temp one.
it figures, i finally like a job and do good work, then i get the ax.
ny sucks for jobs. just to letcha know. sorry couldn't get
back to ya sooner.
Diana
My
Response
5
Years of knowing you and us investigating together when I lived there
that one time you would have known deep down that this was not some
farce. You write me hours before my flight tell me you cannot go that is
called bsing somebody if you cannot pay the money offer to show to the
dinner or some sort of moral support. Hell I need a couch to sleep on
the one night was homeless had nowhere to even go. Mason Winfield gives ghost tours I
do actual expeditions which require funding either you count on your
friends or federal grants. So after you compared me to him we are done
my dear. I mean I am not a rich man cause of hurricanes rents and mortgages
are high in FL also so is food and raising 3 hungry sons does not help
either. However all things are possible when people work as a group and
by being a cheap skate only is shorting yourself not me.
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Subject:
Re: (no subject)
Date: 8/14/2006
From: jennifer0219
To:
AngelOfThyNight@aol.com
Sounds
awesome!! Where do I send in my funds?? I'll be in Florida the 22
to the 24. I've been working on getting into the asylum and
the summit house. Got a crazy picture outside the asylum.
I've had it looked at by many and even the most skeptic cant
explain what they see. Also had a crazy siting on Delaware
Road. I have a friend that lives by there and I drive down it all
the time. I just want to be with more people on Delaware for
safety reasons. It's just four of us here. Four
girls none the less.
I found a publisher for my book. My Dad set it up. Thats
coming along ok. I just have to get to these places! Have
you seen www.hauntedfilm.com yet?
It's cool.
Well let me know when this can all happen. One of my girls made
the Buffalo Jills so her schedule is pretty hectic but she said she is
pretty psyched about the stuff we want to do.
Talk to you soon
Jenn
My
Response
Your
a real ass Jenn you come to FL do not meet with me a week before this adventure
in Buffalo then turn around writing books off places I been too
find your own places not ones that you see on the net. You sit on my
group never say a word. You brag to me for weeks how you were going to
help me with this excursion. YOU disappeared that was rude and it was a
HUGE let down. I wrote you over and over and over you committed and
broke your word. Typical cheerleader I could not expect less! I
lost all my respect for you writing me tons of emails for a week
straight on how you want to go blah blah then all of sudden you ignore
me when this was to occur what kind of friend turns there back on
someone? You want material for your book yet you cannot even make the
investigation or dinner. That is the only reason why you contacted me
because you wanted information for your book on a place we new about
investigated long before you have shame on you trying to get rich off my
hard work.I guess you will only be as good as walking
Delaware Road with your Jills you missed something great.
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In
a message dated 8/14/2006 9:10:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
nookiebunkers writes:
Definitely
keep me in mind. I am low on cash as we speak... but in a a
couple weeks my financial status may change a bit. If you are
touring a "catacomb/cave" in the area... I may have already
been in it... It would be cool to meet you and if you have spare
time... I hope that maybe (me and some friends) could give you a
better tour of the Gowanda area... maybe we all could share some
"ghost stories" around a camp fire...
Second
Email:
Well...
I'm sorry to hear that. I know how ya feel. I am usually
too willing to share everything I have with people who just expect it
and take it and abuse it... I've learned over the years (basically by
getting screwed over enough) how to set up good boundaries and stick
to them. Too many psychic vampires out there....
My
Response
Your
emails were the biggest disappoint of all. You claim you are a fan of
my work telling me if I come up you want to camp with me, show
me new places, investigate etc then I offer to come out there hike out
in Zoar Valley with you and I get shafted. You call me a psychic
vampire tell me you do not know me blah blah blah excuses excuses
telling me how when we meet you will pay me the money. We are are for
real we have a PO Box, hell our forums have over 50,000 post in 5
years, you can rent our DVD I appear on locally in WNY what more proof
do you want. Its funny how people in WNY brag about how they will
assist you then they find out your for real and they make up any
excuse to not be a part of it. The only reason you humored me is cause
you did not think we would actually come to your town to investigate
being we are in FL. But I gave you my word that should have been good
enough. It hurts when people like you right me ass kissing then I show
a need for your help and you turn your back on me. I did not even want
your cash but nothing is free whether it cost money for car in the gas
tank, batteries, supplies for our members to use etc you cannot get
rich over 20 dollars believe me not compared to the amount I have
spent on this trip.
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Subject:
Catacombs
Date: 8/15/2006 6:40:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From:Dlaure2006
To: AngelOfThyNight
Hey
Rick,
I got your email and sounds great! I will be going out of town until
Sunday night. Can you email me the info...do you have paypal so I con
donate for the trip? I also wanted to ask your opinion of the
pendulum.
I have contacted a spirit in my home who claims she resides here with
two others, I always knew my house was haunted but now I know by whom! I
have managed to verify some of the information she has given me but I am
not sure if it is all true. Any thoughts about the pendulum or
identifying who I am talking to? Any suggestions for protection?
Sorry I missed your im!!!
Debbie
My
Response
Your
a joke your another one who has hailed me for a year constantly every
freaking day sending me pictures of orbs asking me to look at them. Then
I ask for your help which I earned it and you turn your back on me. You
use to get mad when I did not respond to your email right away yet you
ignored me permanently humoring me how you and your team wanted on board
for this. Why tell someone you will donate and never live up to it do
you think that is any honest way to run a paranormal group try learning
how to be an ally and user.
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Subject:
Re: CATACOMBS NO FUNDING YET!!
Date: 8/29/2006 8:04:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From:kindagreywolf@gmail.com
To:ParanormalGhostSociety@googlegroups.com
Rick, F*&% em. PLease let me know when the catacomb date is. I will
goto ny and Pay the tour fee friday. Got some cuties up there that want
to see my little spirit anyways.
My
Response
You
brag on my group telling me how the hell with everybody that you and I
will conquer this place together. You lied about visiting me in October,
never got your donation even if it came back to you I gave you the appropriate
Po Box you sent it to the old one or so you say. Then on top of it you
write me days before the journey telling me your in some other state be
a man keep your word. You ignored my private emails to about the trip
what a huge let down that was. Friends do not let down friends.
______________________________________________________________
In
a message dated 8/16/2006 8:58:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
trailbound69 writes:
Sorry
I did not get back to you sooner. I am
interested. It's just a busy time for me right now.
I'll get back to you soon and let you know more and
about the $$.
Joe
My
Response
You
ignored me also therefore you lost out on a new location. As I told
you before we have the right equipment and bodies to help out since
you are into the hiking scene. Ignoring my emails is cowardly hell at
least show to the group dinner say hi you could not even do that
much. That to me is rude and its a huge let down!
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In
a message dated 9/8/2006 2:06:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aikenno
writes:
Ok,
that all sounds good. I do need your mailing address so my
friend and I can send you our payments. Is money order
acceptable?
My
Response
I
will not post all your emails here about how you are interested, going
to donate, how you want to bring your friend etc but you ignored me
two weeks before the trip and never once even contacted me. Never did
I even get the money order hell that is okay but at least let me know
you cannot go or that this is not something for you. We have talked a
few times and I would not have done this to your or your group in WNY
but to do it to mine to me is inconsiderate.
____________________________________________________________
Subject:
Re: (no subject)
Date: 8/15/2006 1:53:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From:Chieff636
To:AngelOfThyNight
do
u have a date & time in mind ..... ????
i work midnights so i would have to see if i am off or can get off ,,,,,
thanks for remembering me
keith
My
Response
That
is the issue I remembered you but you forgot about us. I give you the
information many times never hear a word back. I made the investigation
during the time you had off cause you told me this which was a Friday
Night since that is your day off. I will say no more but ignoring
someone after you tell them you will get back to me is just rude nothing
more I would not do that to you or anybody.
____________________________________________________________
Subject:
none
Date: 9/23/2006 2:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From:scary47witches
To:lordofthynight@aol.com
i am unsubscribing from your group(s).take care.
My
Response
Just
a few days before my trip here you had the nerve to write this to me.
Never got a response back. Just because I did not get the digital camera
or donation from you does not mean you have the right to let me down and
turn your back. I mean sure you donated in the past but what I want is
someone who will not turn there back when I need them and that you did. I
am sorry I never got your donation it happens but when have I never backed
up my word with you. I sent you a certificate and merchandise always been
a friend to you aside from the group then I get an email like this that to
me is rude and it made me feel like I did something bad towards you.
____________________________________________________________
Subject:
[ParanormalFlorida] Care to Scare Packages..
Date: 8/15/2006 10:27:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From:mossi23139
To:
paranormalflorida@yahoogroups.com
Okay Members,
As Rick has mention hopefully he will be able to go to Buffalo in
September let's just keep our fingers crossed!!.. I want to be able
to help out...and as a group asking for your help as well... I want to
organize something like a Care Package for when he will be going...I think
the title is fitting::grins::..... such a long investigation like that you
will need tons of lighting...even like Rick said glow sticks...or heck if
ya'll have an old flash light stored away in the garage area that would be
great!...Lots and Lots of batteries as well...Munchies of course...and I
was thinking a long the line of a couple of first aid kits......So what do
ya'll say...Let's get this rolling!!??.....Anymore suggestion please
contact me personally not on the list...Funding the CARE TO SCARE
packages...christy moss-moderator of buffalo
christy moss (9/5/2006 9:40:55 PM): can
y ou also email me what you really need on the trip...i'm not getting any
response as usual from the members to help donate some stuff..so when i do
send it out it's gonna be a small pacakage..more on the lines of probably
snacks, batteries and a few flashlights...pretty bumbed out about the
members now like you are
My
Response
Talk
about humoring the members how are they suppose to donate when you set a
bad example by not doing so yourself. I have one more email I got days
before my investigation I lost it I know foolish of me. But it stated to
me why bother donating when others do not that to me is selfish because
pretty soon this person does not that person does not then nobody does. I
never got your scare package no batteries even and that is fine but do not
tell me your going to send some things then ignore me the whole weekend I
am out there busting my ass. You turned out to be a huge disappointment
and you are supposed to be my mod bragging about how your going to donate
20 how your going to send me some things. Its low and it got my hopes up
high. When I didnt get your package I had to run to the store and get the
things you did not send which is fine I am independent but when your own
moderator lies to your face then ignores you a week after the trip that to
me sounds fishy. I realize some let me down but what gives you the right
to when we been friends for years now? What is the point of being someone's
friend if they are going to lie to you and then for you not keep your word
is even worst cause that is not what this group is about. Its about
helping one another and how many times have I helped you? Granted you have
donated the digital recorder and money a couple times which I greatly
appreciate it still gives you no reason to down the road lie to me. Being
a founder I ALWAYS must be honest and the same goes for you as a mod of
our forums. Your either in or out and this time you were out and let me
down this is not something you can just fix the trust its gone so is our
friendship. I battled my life on this trip cause I care about my members
and you lied to my members to make yourself look good!!
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